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Alan Whitford

Hi and welcome back.

Ah, Metrics and measurement. Those 'dirty' words so often used by ATS vendors and consultants (like me) - yet so often misunderstood and misused by HR/Resourcing.

A agree with your assessment about 'stuck in yesterday' - yet over here we are stuck in Last Century. I wish that I could see more companes using some metrics - cost per hire, time to fill - may be outmoded, and probably not the right measures as you so clearly point out. However, that at least would indicate that HR/Resourcing realises that it has to measure something! That there must be a process in place to create base line statistics. That Resourcing and Line Managers, along with Finance and Marketing, share the responsbilities of planning and managing the hiring process (for them) and making the hiring experience (for the candidate) more efficient and relevant to the company's goals and needs.

Of course, real effectiveness measures (I like that phrase) require measuring things like: Employee impact, workforce satisfaction, reduction on headcount turnover (although this also is unsatisfactory if it is not allied with KPI data), company growth and success. Most of which, HR could really step up and to, if it wasn't so bogged down in Admin!

I hope this stream runs and runs.
Alan

Jim Durbin

A timeline for each requirement internally might make a big difference in understanding why reqs get filled and why they don't get filled.

Accurate reasons why a job is on hold (budget, no manager contact, no good resume, vague requisitions). That's tough because it assigns blame.

Time to hire is a terrible one. The time is skewed when managers open a requisition for one person and fill it in a day, while some jobs are open all year.

Not to mention that having metrics can be dangerous if you're ever sued. Any lawyer can show disparate impact if you keep accurate books.

I agree with Alan that hiring managers share the responsibility for tracking productivity - but it's too easy for them to push responsibility back to Human Resources, a game I learned about in my first corporate job.

My suggestion would be internal metrics for every recruiter to measure their success. Patterns always come out when you take the time to track what is happening.

Alan Whitford

Hi again

Serendipity strikes. An outstanding article today on ere

http://www.erexchange.com/articles/db/DA1364B6D13E4433B4EAE53ABD1E4712.asp

Written by Randall Birkwood - I knew him when he was at Cisco and I was running Resumix in Europe - Randall really nails the need for the right kind of metrics - those that affect the company.

Alan

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